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Her firepower was unremarkable; I believe she had the weakest broadside among all the treaty ships. Some ideas: Bismarck, KGV, Richelieu, North Carolina, Littorio, Nagato? 10,5 m (Roma: 240,7 ft; 224,5 m (p.p.) It's a shame random battles aren't all fought that way. ''Give me a Ping and one Ping only'' - Sean Connery. However, due to its extreme rarity, we won't mention it here. This is in the context of 1 on 1 battleship vs battleship: which ship would you want to be on? It's a real naval legend, that gave the RN a headache, and fought like a lion in the Atlantic. So, basically, they can carry as much fuel as they need, you just start from a different point (France perhaps?). Littorio or Vittorio Veneto instead of Bismarck. Del resto delle armi, è meglio soprassedere: ad ogni modo, se le distanze fossero cadute molto più del normale, la bordata di 6 pezzi da 90 mm non avrebbe potuto nemmeno lontanamente tenere il confronto con 8 da 105 mm (120 kg vs 60), che avevano sia gittata che cadenza di tiro superiori. I don´t believe that Lutjens would ever get the edge even if commanding CVN Nimitz. USS Washington and its sister, North Carolina, were the first American battleships built since 1921.They displaced thirty-five thousand tons, could make twenty-seven knots, and carried a … Once he did, two old battleships of the Conte di Cavour class were sent to be modernized in the same year, and Vittorio Veneto and Littorio were laid down in 1934. I telemetri veri e proprio non erano totalmente inclusi nella struttura, a differenza di quelli italiani, ma questo non era un problema eccessivo perché era molto difficile colpirne le 'canne'; in compenso, proprio per questo c'era il peso sufficiente per corazzare la SDT vera e propria! Quest'ultima, sulle Littorio, è robustissima, ma non è molto estesa in altezza, almeno non quanto quella della P.o.W e della Bismarck. Warships, naval battles, technology, weapons, navies of all eras, modeling, etc. The Italian leader Benito Mussolini did not authorize any large naval rearmament until 1933. As some of you may recall, the first edition of this page featured a three-way race between Bismarck, Yamato and Iowa.I received quite a volume of e-mail from overseas (including some from Germany, surprise, surprise...) debating various points of contention. by ostriker » Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:33 pm, Post Quest'ultima ha evitato gli effetti di almeno due, e forse tre siluri a centro nave proprio per questa ragione. Historical Richelieu vs Littorio vs Bismarck. These 15″ weapons, designed and manufactured by the Ansaldo company, were incredibly powerful. Once he did, two old battleships of the Conte di Cavour class were sent to be modernized in the same year, and Vittorio Veneto and Littorio were laid down in 1934. Go. Plus, able commander doesn't mean able crew. It's the first name that comes up in my mind when I hear "battleship". Release History: First Sold September 17th to October 1st, 2015. The Littorio class, also known as the Vittorio Veneto class,[Note 1] was a class of battleship of the Regia Marina, the Italian navy. I can't believe it got around an 8! Dislocamento-Bismarck: 41.676 t, 50.153 t a pieno carico-Littorio: 41.700 t, 45.460 t a pieno carico Corazzatura Littorio Bismarck )-4: gli incrociatori americani. I think that the Italian ship would have some severe problems with the stability in the Atlantic Sea, but overall, I think that she could have been done a very good job with good and well trained crewmembers. The Italians never demanded long radius, so while Littorio is fast, we can't call her very mobile. Team 1 takes it, though Iowa manages to disengage and run once her partners are taken out. Low-trajectory guns will always show greater dispersion, but that doesn't necessarily mean less accuracy or fewer hits--in fact, the opposite is true. Qualche commento sulle elezioni del 31 maggio. Bismarck was faster,. Not realy, since Gibraltar is a serious obsticle between the Italian Navy Realm and the Atlantic, where the Kriegsmarine was deployed. Le torri secondarie e terziarie non erano corazzate a sufficienza per sopravvivere ai colpi di grosso calibro (solo il frontale delle torri da 152 italiane poteva forse sopravvivere, ma difficilmente la torre sarebbe rimasta operativa dopo l'impatto). Release History: First Sold September 17th to October 1st, 2015. _Issoupe 0 points 1 point 2 points 1 day ago * However you are right, you cannot just consider the general thickness of the belt. Historical what if discussions, hypothetical operations, battleship vs. battleship engagements, design your own warship, etc. Karl, I don't think that the German vessels were a lot better than said in this forum. Moderator. Banned. 237,8 m; larghezza 32,9 m; 100 o 150 mm(?) Richelieu was better in many areas (deck/turret armour, TDS, speed, range) though that does not mean she would have easily defeated BS, which imo would not have been the case, since her advantages wouldn´t be decisive in such an engagement and she`d suffer from dispersion and shell problems. by Karl Heidenreich » Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:47 pm, Post Post 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. Battleships Bismarck & Littorio (or VV) meet-up. Bismarck(Tirpitz) vs Richelieu vs Littorio vs King George V. Now that the Tirpitz hype is real I'm wondering why they seem to be so popular and liked compared to the other European state-of-the-art Battleships. A questo aggiungiamo che raramente i cannoni tedeschi usavano le munizioni AP. by iankw » Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:17 pm, Post Capacità nominali e mondo reale parte 2: i Gina, Capacità nominali e mondo reale parte 1: i Macchi 326-339, Qualche spunto sulle memorie digitali... e la loro convenienza, Un insetto mordace... GNAT vs Hunter, G.91 Macchi e F-86, Macchi 326K, potenza di fuoco e vulnerabilità, Appunti bellici su Macchi 326, G.91R e F-86. Last edited: Mar 12, 2020. The Littorio class were armed with the Cannone da 381mm/50 Ansaldo M134 naval gun. Littorio Vittorio Veneto Roma Andrea Doria Caio Duilio Conte Cavour Giulio Cesare KM BBs Bismarck Tirpitz KM BC Scharnhorst Gneisenau VMF BBs Gangut Petropavlovsk Sevastopol Poltava . At the time when both ships were afloat, it is easy to predict a victory for Bismarck. Quest'ultima, sulle Littorio, è robustissima, ma non è molto estesa in altezza, almeno non quanto quella della P.o.W e della Bismarck. by RF » Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:04 am, Post Bismarck is in my opinion the quintessence of a battleship. Summary: A Bismarck-class battleship that trades away Hydroacoustic Search and AA-power for deck mounted torpedoes. ↳ The Ironclad & Pre-dreadnought Era (1860-1905), ↳ Movies, Films, Documentaries and Games, Littorio or Vittorio Veneto instead of Bismarck, Re: Littorio or Vittorio Veneto instead of Bismarck. The third ship of the Littorio class, ... with the likely exception of Bismarck … This is an entirely hypothetical scenario, but if Bismarck was substituted by either Littorio or Vittorio Veneto for Rheinubung, and this operation was conducted with the DS breakout in exactly the same way - Italian ship, Italian crew but under command of a German Fleet Commander, would the Hood have still blown up … Historical Richelieu vs Littorio vs Bismarck by boneghazi in WorldOfWarships. E allora, meglio usare i proiettili HE, con il triplo (addirittura il quadruplo per le armi tedesche) di carica esplosiva. Sold December 11th to 14th, 2015. It can't even measure up to Littorio!Well, Bismarck's is even weaker. Yamato vs. Iowa is pretty even, but Richelieu and KGV vs. Vittorio Veneto and Bismarck is a mismatch in favor of the former, as the two Axis ships have serious holes in their armor protection and the VV has probably the worst fire control setup of the lot. The low-trajectory weapon has a greater danger space, so even if the shells are spaced farther apart when they land, they might still have more hits within the danger space. 4 pensieri di cronaca nera e senso della vita... Capacità nominali e mondo reale parte 3: i Tornado. Against Littorio, S1 = 0.7, S2 = 2.8, C1h = 660, C2xg = 900, B1h = 3.8, B2g = 2.25, α1 = 65.1, α2 = 65.1 + 1 = 6.1 The result is Vg ≈ 579m/s Since Bismarck's outer plate is quite thick, while Littorio's quite thin, I believe the change in angle of obliquity would be more significant on Bismarck than Littorio. Bismarck vs. Yamato (comparison) - YouTub . The same thought occurred to me Jose, but it's covered in the original set up, by not assuming the operation starts from the same point (the Baltic). Crea il tuo sito web unico con modelli personalizzabili. In altri termini, è verosimile che i 150 mm tedeschi sarebbero stati più dannosi di quelli da 152 italiani. Sold December 11th to 14th, 2015. The German surface fleet consisted of mediocre designs which just did not compare well with the best that others had to offer. Don't forget that Rommel got more out of Italian troops than any of the Italian commanders. by XazaX » Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:12 am, Post -Littorio: lunghezza 237,8 m; larghezza 32,9 m; pescaggio medio p.c. Incrociatori Washington: Zara e gli altri, Comparazione cannoni di grosso calibro navali, Scontro di nani: T-26 vs Renault R.35 (e non solo), Mezzi corazzati leggeri russi, appunti e ipotesi, Carri e AFV del R.Esercito vs la perfida Albione, Pesi piuma: CV-33 vs Vickers Mk VI (e non solo), Pesi massimi: P40 contestualizzato nel '43-44, Profili di corazzata a confronto, parte 1. The Italian leader Benito Mussolini did not authorize any large naval rearmament until 1933. E ovviamente, i telemetri della SDT della Littorio erano vulnerabili pressoché a TUTTE le armi tedesche, a parte forse quelle da 20 mm. In May 1935, the Italian Naval Ministry began … Popolazione 2017, ISTAT contro ONU: chi ha ragione? The critical advantage is that Bismarck’s guns had much less dispersion and Bismarck had radar for ranging and a good fire control system as judged by comparison with that of contemporary RN battleships. 1941 : Vittorio Veneto recieved one torpedo hit and went to full stop after taking in almost 5,000 litres of water. German Fleet Commander with Italian crew... somehow I think Hood would still have the upper hand. You are confusing her with her Atlantic-built contemporaries, which had large range, and were susceptible to being "mission killed" via battle damage (see Bismarck). )-1: gli incrociatori giapponesi, Duri a morire(? Matapan, 28. by Karl Heidenreich » Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:21 am, Post One on one, she's arguably the best tier VIII battleship in the game. Bismarck(Tirpitz) vs Richelieu vs Littorio vs King George V. Now that the Tirpitz hype is real I'm wondering why they seem to be so popular and liked compared to the other European state-of-the-art Battleships. by Hartmann10 » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:45 pm, Post British postwar tests showed that German heavy guns had more dispersion than British guns. One on one, she's arguably the best tier VIII battleship in the game. Bismarck didn´t achieve much on her large displacement. The critical advantage is that Bismarck’s guns had much less dispersion and Bismarck had radar for ranging and a good fire control system as judged by comparison with that of contemporary RN battleships. HMS Warspite said: Yes Battleships could do so, but certainly not the cruisers and destroyers needed to protect them. Background For additional information, see Littorio-class battleship. a) in a battle in the north sea , stormy weather,poor visibility. Dati utile sulla produzione di Mirage F.1 e Mirage 2000, Dati utili su Hunter e G.91R (armamenti e upgrade), La suprema bellezza dell'Hunter (Top Gun alla svitzera), Oltre il Magic: gli altri missili francesi, Jaguar: analisi della produzione e disponibilità, Mezzi corazzati UK e speciale CRV-T (Scorpion e cuggini), Il missile Rapier, spada dalle molte punte, I temibili Mosquito, i Tornado degli anni '40, Duri a morire(? As some of you may recall, the first edition of this page featured a three-way race between Bismarck, Yamato and Iowa.I received quite a volume of e-mail from overseas (including some from Germany, surprise, surprise...) debating various points of contention. But I'm torn between Bismarck and Littorio class for the close second. Tanto le corazzature erano troppo spesse per perforarle da distanze pratiche di tiro (diciamo 12-20 km). Richeliu vs Bismarck vs KGV vs Vittorio Veneto. Besides this, the Littorio class was designed for Mediterranean service with a much shorter operational radius, while Bismarck and other German warships of the period were designed for long range operations in the Atlantic. I disagree especially the cruisers and Scharnhorsts didn´t compare very well to their opponents. The class was composed of four ships—Littorio, Vittorio Veneto, Roma, and Impero—but only the first three ships of the class were completed. by Lutscha » Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:36 pm, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. Le armi da 90 mm erano meglio protette di quelle da 105, ma pur sempre non abbastanza anche contro i 150-152 mm. 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HMS Hood and HMS Prince of Wales intercept DKM Bismarck and the heavy cruiser DKM Prinz Eugen in … Ma quanti diavolo sono i Macchi 326 e 339? Discussion. Background For additional information, see Littorio-class battleship. (No, I’m not going to make it as simple as that. Due to an exceptionally high muzzle velocity of almost 2800fps, these guns could fire their 1,951lb shells at ranges exceeding 26 miles (42.25km). Incrociatori: quale era il miglior schema protettivo? Mentre le SDT tedesche erano invulnerabili a tutte le armi sotto il 381 mm. Capacità nominali e mondo reale parte 5: DALLE FONTI ORIGINALI... Starfighter contro Vulcan! Which one would win against the other in a hypothetical pure Battleships vs Battleship duel ala Hood vs Bismarck. Nell'insieme, anche qui non c'é molto da scegliere, ma la maggior cadenza di fuoco delle armi tedesche è micidiale. The third ship of the Littorio class, ... with the likely exception of Bismarck and Tirpitz. Questo, senza considerare che nelle prove di tiro citate da Colliva, i cannoni da 152/55 avevano eseguito al massimo 2 tiri al minuto per canna. (Battleship images scanned from Gibbons, "The Complete Encyclopedia of Battleships.") Mentre i cannoni tedeschi erano molto più rapidi, ma senza munizioni a.a. (e con un alzo lievemente inferiore rispetto ai 45° dei cannoni italiani)! by Tiornu » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:16 am, Post The result was the first post–Washington Treaty class of genuine fast battleships, the Littorio class. Built between 1934 and 1942, they were the most modern battleships used by Italy during World War … Summary: A Bismarck-class battleship that trades away Hydroacoustic Search and AA-power for deck mounted torpedoes. The Twin 457 rainbow gun is ultra-rare and is the strongest gun in the game. )-3: gli incrociatori inglesi, Duri a morire(? Which of the above is the best european BB? (Falklands 1982). Le torri secondarie erano protette contro armi della stessa categoria di calibro. Quest'ultima ha evitato gli effetti di almeno due, e forse tre siluri a centro nave proprio per questa ragione. E' tutto un controsenso, se si considera che i proiettili a.a. italiani avevano poca possibilità di essere efficaci, senza radar di tiro e sopratutto, con una cadenza di tiro che avrebbe dovuto essere particolarmente elevata, mentre in realtà era del tutto marginale stando a Colliva, e nient'affatto ottima nemmeno per Naval weapons. by Karl Heidenreich » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:41 pm, Post My favorite is Bismarck. Bismarck vs. Due to an exceptionally high muzzle velocity of almost 2800fps, these guns could fire their 1,951lb shells at ranges exceeding 26 miles (42.25km). Why are all the machines I think are good really lame? Littorio was a short-legged battleship, built for the closed space of the Mediteranean. This is an entirely hypothetical scenario, but if Bismarck was substituted by either Littorio or Vittorio Veneto for Rheinubung, and this operation was conducted with the DS breakout in exactly the same way - Italian ship, Italian crew but under command of a German Fleet Commander, would the Hood have still blown up at the DS battle? Discussion in 'The War at Sea' started by Blaster, Jan 18, 2007. Being that the case then we will likely never get a Hood´s blowing at DS. 1 CV12Hornet. At the time when both ships were afloat, it is easy to predict a victory for Bismarck. Don´t you think so? Aug 2, 2016 #21 Redbeard. I like the Littorio class too, but not sure how good the armor was. Wasn´t it true that the Littorio had problems with a very high dispersion rate with their main guns? Bismarck was commissioned in 1940, Yamato in late 1941. )-2: gli incrociatori italiani e tedeschi, Duri a morire(? These 15″ weapons, designed and manufactured by the Ansaldo company, were incredibly powerful. by RF » Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:46 am, Post Richelieu vs Littorio in direct confrontation can only meet in the western Mediteranean. Peraltro, le Littorio avevano quasi il doppio di munizioni per cannone, 210 anziché 108-120 colpi. 80 mm, -torrione: 200-260 mm 350 mm. Se si accettano i dati di Naval Weapons, abbiamo circa 6 c.min per i 155, 8 per i 150 (al loro meglio), con la possibilità di lanciare cariche HE da sei cannoni per lato, portando complessivamente a segno 36x2,3 kg (82,8 kg)/min per la nave italiana, contro 48x3,08-3,82 kg (148-183 kg) per quella tedesca. Hood Print Mar 25, 2019 - The Battle of the Denmark Strait, 24 May 1941. It's a shame random battles aren't all fought that way. The Littorio class were armed with the Cannone da 381mm/50 Ansaldo M134 naval gun. The rests are ship specific guns - The Quad 356 is for KGV, The Triple 381 is for Littorio, the Quad 380 is for Jean Bart, and the Triple 406 is for Gascogne Muse and Massachusetts. But that's not a bad thing. TL:DR - There was barely a sheet of tissue paper between them. by José M. Rico » Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:36 pm, Post Bismarck was actually lost 8 months before Yamato was commissioned, but this is a hypothetical question, so that's okay. Mar 12, 2020 #2 Scenario 1 is a win for the Anglo-Americans. (Battleship images scanned from Gibbons, "The Complete Encyclopedia of Battleships.") - There was barely a sheet of tissue paper between them littorio vs bismarck 24 1941. Historical what if discussions, hypothetical operations, battleship vs. battleship engagements, design your own warship etc... ( Roma: 240,7 ft ; 224,5 m ( Roma: 240,7 ft ; 224,5 m ( Roma: ft! Le torri secondarie erano protette contro armi della stessa categoria di calibro weather, poor.. 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